I think I should point out that, according to the official University Documents about the development plan, the removal of the Oaks isn’t neccesarily tied to this Student Athlete High Performance deal.

The Oaks will also need to be removed to make room for some type of seismic structural retrofitting implements for the stadium (as you can tell I am not technically knowledgeable in this).

Regardless of the SAHPS, these Oaks will be coming down, or the stadium itself cannot continue to stand.

the university will plant 3 for every one they remove. also, these people are frikin’ retarded… the few trees that will be removed are a pittance compared to the huge number of trees around campus and the city and the whole goddamn bay area.

a better idea would to be to the training center next to the stadium, and the trees under maxwell field. f*ck the trees.

LOL

And as far as the old growth trees are concerned, trees are a renewable resource. Forests occassionally regenerate themselves without the “help” of man. Surely we can find a place to plant a few more oaks to replace those that will have to go. They’ve had their time…let’s let some younger trees stand in the gap.

To say that the training center is not beneficial to the students is short-sighted. To begin, alumni upon whom the University relies for donations are proven to be more likely to donate to a University with successful athletic programs. These donations benefit not only the athletic department, but find their way into new buildings, programs and scholarships.

But without the training center, Cal stands to lose the high-quality coaches it worked so hard to find, to lose athletes to other programs with better facilities, to lose the good feeling that accompanies athletic success. I would venture to guess that even a Nobel Prize winner or two appreciates the athletic successes that have again come to Cal so recently.

Well said.

And as far as the old growth trees are concerned, trees are a renewable resource. Forests occassionally regenerate themselves without the “help” of man. Surely we can find a place to plant a few more oaks to replace those that will have to go. They’ve had their time…let’s let some younger trees stand in the gap.

To say that the training center is not beneficial to the students is short-sighted. To begin, alumni upon whom the University relies for donations are proven to be more likely to donate to a University with successful athletic programs. These donations benefit not only the athletic department, but find their way into new buildings, programs and scholarships.

But without the training center, Cal stands to lose the high-quality coaches it worked so hard to find, to lose athletes to other programs with better facilities, to lose the good feeling that accompanies athletic success. I would venture to guess that even a Nobel Prize winner or two appreciates the athletic successes that have again come to Cal so recently.

Regarding the benefits of student athlete high performance center, in the long run it would benefit the majority of Cal students. Successful athletic programs draw donations from alumni, which go to fund new buildings, programs, scholarships, etc. I bet even some Nobel Prize winners appreciate the athletic excellence now becoming a Cal tradition again. Without the performance center, Cal would likely lose coaches like Tedford, Braun and others because of the difficulty of bringing top quality student athletes to Cal. Why would a recruit choose the University of Nebraska over Cal? Surely not because of the climate or the ambience or the academic excellence. Reject the performance center and prepare yourself for a long spiral downwards in the performance of athletic teams, and the corresponding downturn in funding and all that goes with it.

My Dad’s an industrial architect, he has to re-adjust the siting of buildings ALL THE TIME because of municipal zoning boards and planners.

I heard that we could also put the training building under Maxwell Field. Maxwell is right there next to the stadium. I read that we want to put parking at Maxwell, but like you say, the traffic on Piedmont already sucks. So why does Cal want to put 900 more cars a day on it.

I guess all I am saying is how about a little creative thinking here, just move the training building 100 yards, then the trees can stay, we get to have a training building next to the stadium and we can get on with life.