Prop 73 Getting Heavy Campus Press
Proposition 73, the Parental Notification Initiative, appears to be one of the closer races in the special election, and has been getting a lot of attention on campus lately. The Daily Cal ran a feature on the proposition yesterday and the Cal Patriot Blog has opened an open forum for debate on the subject.
CalStuff was sent this email earlier this week:
UPDATE: This event has been postponed until Monday, October 31, due to rain.
On Wednesday October 26th from 12pm to 3pm the UC Berkeley No on 73 Coalition will put on the Prop 73 Maze on Upper Sproul Plaza on the UC Berkeley campus.
The Prop 73 Maze is an interactive demonstration which allows volunteers to experience first-hand the life of a pregnant young woman under Proposition 73. The maze is designed to educate Berkeley student voters about the realities of Prop 73…
From 12pm to 1pm, the event will feature speakers from the Campaign for Teen Safety, NARAL Pro-Choice California and the UC Berkeley No on 73 Coalition, as well as several performances simulating a judicial bypass, the option for young women who need Prop 73’s parental notification requirement waived. From 1pm to 3pm, volunteers will have the opportunity to play the character of a pregnant minor and travel through the maze.
Cal Patriot already seems to be in a bit of a huff about the event, and it looks to be one of the more creative ideas for a demonstation on Sproul for some time now, so it may be worth a look. Plus, I’ve been drafted to play a part, and I’m a sucker for street theatre (insert narcissist comment here).
These folks must have a slightly different definition of “experience first-hand” than I do.
Comment by Beetle — October 26, 2005 @ 12:18 pm
Too bad it’s raining, abortionazis.
Comment by chet — October 26, 2005 @ 12:52 pm
Abortionazis! That’s so clever!
Comment by Beetle — October 26, 2005 @ 12:57 pm
Here is an interesting snipped from the Chronicle today:
One little-discussed provision of the Nov. 8 ballot measure would create a public scorecard for judges who rule on minors’ abortions. Another would define abortion in the state Constitution as the killing of “a child conceived but not yet born.'’
Comment by N — October 26, 2005 @ 3:03 pm
This is completely unrelated to this topic, but does anybody know anything about this (found on the library website):
NRR closure
The North Reading Room (2nd floor Doe Library) will be closed Oct.27, beginning at 2pm.
North Reading Room closure
The North Reading Room on the 2nd floor of Doe Library will be closed for a special event on Thursday, October 27, beginning at 2pm. Staff will be able to retrieve “DREF” and “GREF” books for users until 6pm. The Reference Desk and East Reading Room (Current Periodicals) will remain open.
I like NPR, and if there is something cool (NPR-related) going on here on campus, I want to know about it.
Comment by Cal Fan — October 26, 2005 @ 7:56 pm
Read it again: NRR stands for North Reading Room, as in “North Reading Room closure.”
Comment by anon — October 27, 2005 @ 2:02 pm
Wow, that is pretty funny. I was convinced it said NPR.
Comment by Cal Fan — October 27, 2005 @ 2:13 pm
abortion, blah blah blah. what students should be concerned about is prop. 76
Comment by NO on Prop. 76 — October 28, 2005 @ 1:24 pm
Yes, we should be concerned that UC won’t get any funding if the state goes bankrupt. Real fiscal reform now. Yes on 76.
Comment by YES on Prop. 76 — October 28, 2005 @ 1:40 pm
Prop 76 would be great if it were a simple revocation of Prop 98, and if all you listened to was the anti-Prop 76 people, you’d think that was the case. They shoot themselves in the foot in that regard.
But it’s not. Prop 76 would mandate that all future tax hikes be approved by 2/3 of the legislature. For that reason alone, if you don’t want to see the state go bankrupt, vote no on 76.
Plus, while I haven’t checked a poll in the past week or so, isn’t 76 being clobbered in opinion polls? 73 could still theoretically pass.
Comment by Donald — October 28, 2005 @ 2:44 pm
Prop 73 is an example of how a stupid social issue that is really irrelevant in the long run to whether or not our society exists. Students should be debating other far more important propositions like prop 76 or those health care initiatives. The idiots on the left and right are wasting their breath on prop 73, which doesn’t even affect them. Sometimes the issue of abortion is retarded and ends up making people hate each other for no reason at all.
Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 8:54 am
It’s irrelevance is what makes it so fun.
Comment by Beetle — October 29, 2005 @ 12:32 pm
Ouch. Misplaced apostrophe. Time to cut off a toe.
Comment by Beetle — October 29, 2005 @ 12:33 pm
Seriously WHY do people care if there are abortions or not?
Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 1:04 pm
Prop 73 will, first of all, endanger the young women of California if it passes. Just because you are not a female under 18 does not mean that you shouldn’t care about the initiative. The people who are affected by this proposition actually CANNOT VOTE, so who the hell is supposed to care about it except for unaffected people?
Secondly, it will add EIGHT PAGES to the California constitution, and in those eight pages life is defined as beginning at conception. This creates serious obstacles for stem-cell research, in-vitro fertilization AND abortion (and not just abortion for minors). If you want to return to pre-Roe v. Wade, the era of the back-alley wire hanger, if you want to threaten California’s position at the forefront of stem-cell research; if you want to inflict serious damage on the advances we have made in reproductive technology, then Prop 73 is the initiative for you.
That people are implying that Prop 73 is not important is absolutely ridiculous. It WILL affect you, whether you like it or not. So will the rest of the propositions. None of them can be ignored, and this next election WILL have a significant impact on the state of California.
Finally, if you are a raped, pregnant woman, with two kids and strapped for cash, I don’t think the issue of abortion is “retarded”. If you die from an unsafe illegal abortion, the issue is hardly “retarded”.
Comment by are you serious? — October 29, 2005 @ 1:13 pm
P.S. Anonymous…have you never, honestly wondered what you would do if the condom broke? Remember, emergency contraception would be illegal under Prop 73…
Comment by are you serious? — October 29, 2005 @ 1:16 pm
Uh… dude… while you’re just making things up, you might want to point out that Prop 73 also assigns a large robotic guard dog to every individual, which cannot be used for RoboDog wars without a proper license.
Comment by Beetle — October 29, 2005 @ 2:15 pm
“Finally, if you are a raped, pregnant woman, with two kids and strapped for cash, I don’t think the issue of abortion is “retarded”. If you die from an unsafe illegal abortion, the issue is hardly “retarded”.”
Prop 73 does NOT tell people they can’t have abortions if they’re raped. It tells people they need to call their parents. WOW THAT WAS HARD. You act like this is frickin’ Texas after Roe v. Wade were abolished.
Also, if I were a woman and the condom broke I would get an abortion. Also not very hard. If I were a man and the condom broke I’d tell my girlfriend I would support her having an abortion or keeping the child. Do you know why? Having sex is a risk. Being devoid of responsibility makes society stupid.
And since by definition of LAW children cannot be responsible, they cannot sign contracts or enter into situations where they would be held liable under the law, they should also have to defer to the authority fo a person who is older than 18. If you don’t like that, change the laws of consent to 16.
Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 2:39 pm
R%oe v. Wade is the LAW> California statutes cannot overrule it. I’m seriously starting to wonder why everyone is so paranoid that this is goign to make abortions illegal. I am pro-abortion. I see the merits to having birth control as both an avenue for women as well as a mechanism for population control. To all the anti-abortion fanatics as well, won’t less abortions mean more welfare and entitlement programs for people who have babies that they don’t want?
Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 2:43 pm
Abortion stops a beating heart.
Think how the innocent baby who is about to being torn apart and have its brain sucked out with a vacuum pump feels. He/she can’t vote either.
Comment by captain anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 3:38 pm
Then make an argument for abortion being illegal after the baby grows a heart. Or a brain. 3 hours after conception can’t possibly be seen as a coherent being. And what if during the third tirmester, where a baby has a full functioning brain the woman’s life is threatened?
Abortion is 100% killing. But we need to acknowledge that killign is ok but only under certain circumstances.
Comment by Anonymous — October 29, 2005 @ 3:54 pm
“are you serious”:
its unlikely that people like anonymous are having sex.
Comment by mano — October 29, 2005 @ 7:31 pm
“Abortion stops a beating heart”
My sandwich had a beating heart too. Anyone notice that the same religious wackjobs who dont understand shit about life, medicine, science (intelligent design comes to mind) are the same wackjobs trying to pass legislation about “life”.
To all the bleating heart anti-choice wackjob conservatives: fuck you. The ideal proposition 73 would be forced sterilization for you. Snip.
Comment by mano — October 29, 2005 @ 7:40 pm
one of those anonymous guys is apparently neither a man nor a woman..
“IF I were a woman…
“If I were a man..
Comment by obbb — October 29, 2005 @ 11:51 pm
Choose life, your mother did.
Comment by captain anonymous — October 30, 2005 @ 11:13 am
Sometimes I wish some of these people’s mothers didn’t choose life.
Comment by Anonymous — October 30, 2005 @ 11:45 am
mano, that would make you anti-life if the conservatives are anti-choice?
Comment by Anonymous — October 30, 2005 @ 1:09 pm
we need more potential recruits for the army anyway.
This initiative is bad, and it has a lot of text describing things beyond requiring parents to be informed. Yet, money is what would prevent lots of people from affording an abortion right now, plus most teens would assume the bill would get sent home or the doctor would call their parent anyway. I don’t think many teens can get abortions on their incomes and locations where they live.
So what is the medication called that is widely used for abortion in Brazil? There are many prescription medications that are dangerous for pregnant women to take that have been developed in the last 20 years, because they so reliably cause miscarraige - with fewer side effects than parsley, dong quai and pennyroyal which is toxic.
Comment by cc — October 30, 2005 @ 1:37 pm
Anonymous:
No, the abortion issue isnt about life. Its about control and choice. Everyone (pretty much) is “pro-life”.
Comment by mano — October 30, 2005 @ 1:50 pm
“we need more potential recruits for the army anyway.”
That can be solved by cloning human beings, thanks to prop 71 (which I voted for). We’ll never need a draft if we have a permanent supply for a standing army. They will be raised by the military and trained to kill without having any feelings or memories of emotions.
Comment by Anonymous — October 30, 2005 @ 2:50 pm
Also, pro chocie can be interpreted as giving the newborn baby a right to live life with choices. I’m not saying that I agree with that but that’s one characterization.
Comment by Anonymous — October 30, 2005 @ 2:52 pm
Finally, someone with a firm grasp of human biology AND the english language!
Comment by mano — October 30, 2005 @ 6:31 pm
cloned soldiers. a novel idea
yeah - here is a Daily Cal alumnus, Max Boot, on the purpose of soldiers, and how we need a bloodier rather than bloodless war for our own side, and we have to get over the fear of bodybags: http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95001465
Comment by cight — October 31, 2005 @ 9:16 am
and, cight, are you taking the cloned soldier guy seriously? cuz if so, man, you are both stupid. thinking star wars is a documentary, or what? clone army? haha!
anyway, max boot, easy for him to call for blood and guts. he seems like a grade A chickenhawk academic. if you believe in blood and guts, put yours on the line. if you believe, like he does, that the military is too small, go sign up, sissyface, and stop waiting for these clones to materialize.
Comment by mano — October 31, 2005 @ 11:27 am