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	<title>Comments on: Willis-Starbuck killer caught</title>
	<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/</link>
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		<title>by: Anon</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2176</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:22:45 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>OC is a term used by people who watch too many bad teenaged soap operas and is as laughable as someone saying &quot;Frisco&quot; -- it just shows you don't live there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>OC is a term used by people who watch too many bad teenaged soap operas and is as laughable as someone saying &#8220;Frisco&#8221; &#8212; it just shows you don&#8217;t live there.
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2175</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:10:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2175</guid>
					<description>What's 'OC'?  'the OC'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>What&#8217;s &#8216;OC&#8217;?  &#8216;the OC&#8217;?
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		<title>by: Insider</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2174</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:59:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2174</guid>
					<description>Correction on above posting -- Hollis is 22.  Which makes his mother's argument that he's just young and confused even less convincing.

And the confusion between whether he was captured at a traffic stop or at a friend's apartment is now settled.   The story is that he and his 33 year old girlfriend that was harboring him, got pulled over because she ran a stop sign.  Neither had id and the police took them to the station and ran the fake names they were using thru the compputers.  Nothing came back, but they also fingerprinted Hollis.  Because the police computer was backed up with other cases, the fingerprints were not run until later, when they got a match on Hollis who, of course, is in their system since he's a convicted felon.  I'm not sure how they knew where the girlfriend is living -- one story says the pair were dropped off at their apartment by the police after being detained -- but the bottom line is that Hollis knows he was fingerprinted, knows that it was just a matter of time, and the fool still stayed around. Someone ought to write &quot;IDIOT&quot; in big letters with a magic marker across his forehead.  They fingerprinted him but didn't have the chance to run them, so he just assumes they never will run the prints?  He doesn't remember being convicted and arrested and fingerprinted several times?   

And then the capture took place.  Big brave protector of women was cowering in a closet behind a baby carriage when the police found him.

The girlfriend is being charged with harboring a fugitive -- I hope she gets the full charge and penalty.

And the news on the second shooting victim has now been released by the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Correction on above posting &#8212; Hollis is 22.  Which makes his mother&#8217;s argument that he&#8217;s just young and confused even less convincing.</p>
	<p>And the confusion between whether he was captured at a traffic stop or at a friend&#8217;s apartment is now settled.   The story is that he and his 33 year old girlfriend that was harboring him, got pulled over because she ran a stop sign.  Neither had id and the police took them to the station and ran the fake names they were using thru the compputers.  Nothing came back, but they also fingerprinted Hollis.  Because the police computer was backed up with other cases, the fingerprints were not run until later, when they got a match on Hollis who, of course, is in their system since he&#8217;s a convicted felon.  I&#8217;m not sure how they knew where the girlfriend is living &#8212; one story says the pair were dropped off at their apartment by the police after being detained &#8212; but the bottom line is that Hollis knows he was fingerprinted, knows that it was just a matter of time, and the fool still stayed around. Someone ought to write &#8220;IDIOT&#8221; in big letters with a magic marker across his forehead.  They fingerprinted him but didn&#8217;t have the chance to run them, so he just assumes they never will run the prints?  He doesn&#8217;t remember being convicted and arrested and fingerprinted several times?   </p>
	<p>And then the capture took place.  Big brave protector of women was cowering in a closet behind a baby carriage when the police found him.</p>
	<p>The girlfriend is being charged with harboring a fugitive &#8212; I hope she gets the full charge and penalty.</p>
	<p>And the news on the second shooting victim has now been released by the cops.
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		<title>by: anon</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2173</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:37:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2173</guid>
					<description>http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/27/BAG4OEU9T71.DTL</description>
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2172</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:35:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2172</guid>
					<description>if she were white from the OC you can bet they'd be saying she had it coming, living a life of priveldge and not knowing how things really are

they'd also find a way to make themselves victims</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>if she were white from the OC you can bet they&#8217;d be saying she had it coming, living a life of priveldge and not knowing how things really are</p>
	<p>they&#8217;d also find a way to make themselves victims
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2168</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:04:22 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2168</guid>
					<description>Actually, my posting anonymously IS part of the problem.  No one can talk honestly about it.  No one will touch it.  Keep your head down and go back to reading the paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, my posting anonymously IS part of the problem.  No one can talk honestly about it.  No one will touch it.  Keep your head down and go back to reading the paper.
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		<title>by: thomas</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2167</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:17:37 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2167</guid>
					<description>I guess I just skimmed your first post and didnt catch the sarcasm, about them being all good kids.  I dont have much sympathy for any of them, the guy who killed her especially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I guess I just skimmed your first post and didnt catch the sarcasm, about them being all good kids.  I dont have much sympathy for any of them, the guy who killed her especially.
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2166</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:09:02 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2166</guid>
					<description>what is it about my comment that bothers you?  

Sorry, but I'm tired of reading about 'good kids' getting shot on a street corner at 3:00 in the morning. Just happened last weekend, not that you really give a crap. Can you believe it, 3:00 in the a.m.  He was 15.  'Good kid'.  The cops always trot that one -- he was a good kid -- in order to not hurt anyone's feelings, and everyone looks the other way and pretends not to see.  An unfortunate series of events culminating in death by falling asteroid.  Just bad luck.  Could have happened to anyone.  The hard truth is that the jerks who provoked her should have been kicked off campus-- honestly they don't belong at the school if they are indeed enrolled, Price and his buddy are career criminals and Starbuck, a pacifist no less (what a charade, but one that plays well in Berkeley and Hanover) is accessory to her own murder and if she had survived the night, and if someone else had died, she would have belonged in jail too, if the 'heat' comment is true. It boggles the mind that anyone could donate to whatever stupid fund they've got in her name.  And if you don't see it, you're stupid too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>what is it about my comment that bothers you?  </p>
	<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m tired of reading about &#8216;good kids&#8217; getting shot on a street corner at 3:00 in the morning. Just happened last weekend, not that you really give a crap. Can you believe it, 3:00 in the a.m.  He was 15.  &#8216;Good kid&#8217;.  The cops always trot that one &#8212; he was a good kid &#8212; in order to not hurt anyone&#8217;s feelings, and everyone looks the other way and pretends not to see.  An unfortunate series of events culminating in death by falling asteroid.  Just bad luck.  Could have happened to anyone.  The hard truth is that the jerks who provoked her should have been kicked off campus&#8211; honestly they don&#8217;t belong at the school if they are indeed enrolled, Price and his buddy are career criminals and Starbuck, a pacifist no less (what a charade, but one that plays well in Berkeley and Hanover) is accessory to her own murder and if she had survived the night, and if someone else had died, she would have belonged in jail too, if the &#8216;heat&#8217; comment is true. It boggles the mind that anyone could donate to whatever stupid fund they&#8217;ve got in her name.  And if you don&#8217;t see it, you&#8217;re stupid too.
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		<title>by: thomas</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2161</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:15:43 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I can see why you wanted to remain anonymous with a comment like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can see why you wanted to remain anonymous with a comment like that.
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2160</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:46:39 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/09/25/willis-starbuck-killer-caught/#comment-2160</guid>
					<description>It's clear to everyone that the whole thing was just due to a little misunderstanding...tempers flared a bit after a long day, and, shucks, the witnesses are pretty a little confused.  I suggest the whole matter be dropped and we put it behind us and do our best to learn from the experience.  They're all good kids, who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Coulda happened to anyone, to any Dartmouth undergrad.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s clear to everyone that the whole thing was just due to a little misunderstanding&#8230;tempers flared a bit after a long day, and, shucks, the witnesses are pretty a little confused.  I suggest the whole matter be dropped and we put it behind us and do our best to learn from the experience.  They&#8217;re all good kids, who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Coulda happened to anyone, to any Dartmouth undergrad.
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