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Frat Booze Ban Might Be Lifted

Posted by Andy R. in Greek
August 24, 2005 at 2:34 pm

Awesome!
Sf Chron says:

UC Berkeley has negotiated an agreement with fraternity and sorority leaders that could lead to a lifting on the 3-month-old ban on drinking at Greek functions, campus officials announced Tuesday…

The agreement maintains the alcohol ban from Welcome Week, which began Monday, through the end of recruitment week for the Greek system on Sept. 1. If there are no significant violations during that time, fraternities and sororities would be allowed to serve alcohol to people over 21 at alumni activities, such as football game day events, starting Sept. 3, and at off- site social events starting Sept. 8, said university spokeswoman Janet Gilmore. The next step, which could come as early as Oct. 7, would allow fraternities to serve alcohol at small group events, and potentially lifting of the ban entirely as early as Oct. 21, Gilmore sad.

Cal had already required specially trained fraternity and sorority representatives [Called GAMMAS] to patrol events and look for and report to their chapter leaders any violations of campus policies on alcohol use and other party regulations.

The new agreement adds sanctions for noncompliance, including barring a chapter from holding social events for one year, a $3,000 fine, 100 hours of community service and participation in an educational seminar, Gilmore said.

UC Berkeley has 70 fraternities and sororities with more than 2,500 members. Under a long-standing policy, hard liquor is banned while beer and wine are permitted for students of legal drinking age but cannot be served from kegs or other bulk containers…

Andy says: As of the first night of GAMMA Patrols, there were no citations given out for alcohol violations. It appears that the Greek Community will be able to self-police itself, leading to the prompt lifting of the alcohol moratorium.

Also, I don’t think I’ve been to a single fraternity party that didn’t have hard alcohol. I had no idea that it was even against the rules. I guess you learn something new every day.

Finally, allow me to reiterate something I mentioned in comments. If you know of something interesting that happened that isn’t on CalStuff feel free to IM or e-mail us, or you can offer to write a guest post, and we almost certainly would be happy to run it. Right now is an especially good time for this because Ben is in senate training 12 hours a day and I am off being Rush Chairman for 20 hours a day.

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  1. “Ben is in senate training 12 hours a day ”

    u need 12 hours of training per day to learn how to waste time and do noting?
    wtf?

    oter tan tat tis is good news.

    “-smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 24, 2005 @ 2:41 pm

  2. Good point SmashT. Maybe Ben is just pretending that he is off in Senate training to get out of helping out…

    This calls for an investigation!
    *Breaking*
    More soon…

    Comment by Andy R. — August 24, 2005 @ 2:48 pm

  3. Senate training? Can’t you guys just frickin’ study your bylaws (how many could there possibly be) over the summer and start? Oh wait, I heard that there’s diversity trainign during senate training. You know, all those privileged heterosexual WASPs in the senate need to be brainwashed (although it tends to be privileged heterosexual WASPs who advocate diversity). Oh wait.. there are NONE! The only one who could possibly be considered a WASP is bisexual. Maybe if the two Joneses make it into the senate.

    Comment by DTI — August 24, 2005 @ 3:04 pm

  4. its fukin offensive to me tat ppl need to be “trained” to deal wit ppl like me just cuz of my ethnicity. tat’s teh real racist agenda. diversity training + affirmative action = racist slap in teh face.

    “-smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 24, 2005 @ 4:50 pm

  5. If the Greek system will ever be able to police itself honestly, the first step would be to familiarize themselves with the rules that are already in place. The no hard alcohol/no kegs rule, for starters.

    Comment by anon — August 24, 2005 @ 5:31 pm

  6. Melissa Jones is Catholic.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 24, 2005 @ 8:17 pm

  7. And Matt Jones is Jewish. I guess the senate has no WASPs after all.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 25, 2005 @ 10:16 pm

  8. haha, teh ASUC Senate needs to bring back teh wasps. tey gave da oter ppl’s a chance to run it and its a fukin mess now. big waste of time, money, and resources. it resembles a third world government more tan anyting else.

    while fees go up, students have a bad time at school, and the administraion pushes around da Greeks, da ASUC senate just jerks of to affirmative action debats and stupid shiT like taT. smashT

    ten tey waste resources and take 3 months to deliver 10k to da tsunami fund. lol 3-4 months to deliver fundraising money for a time sensitive crises. what a jokeT.

    teh administraiton should just tell those nubs tat their playtime is over and give da money back to da students. crushT

    we should put a referendum b4 da students. “END DA FUKIN ASUC, EACH STUDENT GETS THEIR MONEY BACK” watch taT shiT pass by 90%. of course if ppl ever tried taT u can bet da resume seekers would try adn throw it of teh ballot. after all who wants to lose tey fancy resume job?

    “ASUC smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 1:23 am

  9. smashT,
    I was going to run for ASUC senate (or president) under the Abolish the ASUC party. My only campaign promise was to giev each student their $55 dollars back, vacate MLK Heller Lounge and Eshleman hall and make them into career centers, student lounges and (if we must…) some multicultural center.

    Instead, since one of my best friends was running for and became President, I ran under a “No More Asians” Platform. Had I the chance I would run another serious campaign to abolish the ASUC.

    Because we all know the ASUC has the fiscal irresponsibility worse than any Presidential administration.

    Why does Triple A have to grovel on the ground for money their members could spend money on their own events ($55x700)?

    Why does SUPERB get 6 figures every year? They spent over 30,000 dollars on one Dane Cook show. ONE COMEDY SHOW. That was our money.

    The “No on 54 Campaign” that cost the school $35,000? This was so important. Referring to her beloved illegal campaign that used ASUC funds for a state proposition, “We have ordered a lot of propaganda and materials for distribution and will be distributing them throughout the state,” said ASUC External Affairs Vice President Anu Joshi at the Sept. 10 senate meeting. (I quoted this from the Daily Cal, September 22, 2003)

    How about that great ASUC bookswap.
    “Organizers of the ASUC Bookswap are now estimating that some $6,000 was stolen from the event on its final day, revising earlier figures that put the loss somewhere between $10,000 and $30,000.”
    (Daily Cal, February 1, 2005)

    Or even better. The ASUC paid off BAMN $15,000. Thanks, ASUC. You used $15,000 of our student dollars to whine about your so-important issues.

    Can anyone make an argument as to why we need the ASUC and why it would be better to have them than to abolish them? Senators and executives are NOT held accountable by the students. They serve one year terms and they have a free reign to waste $2 million. If voters don’t liek them, so what… most of them don’t run again anyways. CalSERVE, Student Action, DAAP, BCR party… it’s all a big waste of our money. I’m begging someone to run this year under the “Abolish the ASUC party” or hold a referendum and abolish the ASUC.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 2:33 pm

  10. your absolutely right m@n. asuc is such a jokeT.

    you forgot to mention da 24k tey give each year to UCSA. UCSA uses tis money to get our student fees RAISED. lo tats how bad tey are at lobbying taT tey make da situation worse.

    you also forgot to mention da pork funds tey have. the social (some bullshit or other fund) which is like 5k, the 10k tey give to some retarded camp taT benefits 10 people a year. teh oter “community” funds which really are payoffs and shiT. tey also spend money on some homeless convention or some shiT like taT.

    how dis benefits students? no one can answer taT with a strait face cuz da corruption is so bad.

    ten da officers take 4k stipends hahaT. m@n tis cray cray lol.

    lets put tis campaign together m@n. we need to get together to smashT da asuc. give da students tere money back. fuk these resume bitches they need to be crushT

    “-smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 3:30 pm

  11. 4K stipends is how much each officer makes. They also get like 10k stipends for their OFFICE. Do you know what they do with office funds? They go on retreats and spend their money on food and useless projects.

    USCA… seriously what good does that do? Is it really worth spending ANY money? I thought all of these groups were voluntary and didn’t put a burden on the students. I actually went to one of those “lobby days” against student fees. That year we were so ill-organized; the group leaders came with NO statistics and we just kind of idled out in the state capitol being dissed by Democrat and Republican lawmakers alike. Oh, except some liberal assembly person from Contra Costa county said he “understood our cause.” HA. They also went like walking around California to get fees lowered. How useless.

    Tell me the student government leaders haven’t done things for themselves in the past. Yes, what a great way to get into graduate school by putting ASUC on your resume. Chances are no one knows what ASUC even is.

    Let’s give the students a fee cut. Let’s save each student $55 so they can decide how they want THEIR money spent. I propose either giving the money directly back to the students or letting the students choose which groups they want their $55 dolalrs to go to through a bearfacts voucher thing. We don’t need “student representatives” who just like to cry about affirmative action until 4 in the morning, wasting our money on electricity. We need a student government that is reponsible to the people. Or else we shouldn’t have a student government at all.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 5:13 pm

  12. I woudl like to quote a former senator who said “The ASUC is great because it gives lots of interns the opportunity to develop public speaking skills (and helps me build my resume).” Thanks for spending 2 million dollars to beef up resumes and help interns learn public speaking.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 5:15 pm

  13. hahaT

    if we put tis shiT on da ballot all da resume whores gonna cwy cuz tey know in an up or down vote da voters would throw out their asses. ten tey gonna try to get it thrown off da ballot. yea tese super liberals are all about democracy cept wen it threatens tere corruption money. fukin hypocriTs.

    and ten teh ASUC judicial council gonna bend over cuz tey don’t wanna see tey jobs eliminated with teh ASUC.

    still we should try and do tis just to watch tem cwy and file anti-democratic lawsuits. lets watch tem try and deny voters da rights to tere own money.

    ur right about UCSA. its a fukin joke. 24k to tose losers. for wat? all tey do is suk at lobbying. it sad taT no one on tis super liberal blog gonna eben defend tose losers cuz tey so corrupt and dumbT.

    “-smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 6:34 pm

  14. LoL you’re right smashT. There’s been 6 (7 including this post) posts against the ASUC and not one of them will defend their corrupt student government. If they really cared about the students they’ve had decades to do something right. If they really care about students, they will let the will of the people decide whether or not the ASUC stays. They always say “we represent all of the students.” If the majority doesn’t want the government anymore, will they resign?

    The ASUC is one of the reasons why the administration doesn’t take students seriously. If our school president from a few years back can’t drink in his private home and attack cops, how can the University take us seriously. How about the same regime that HANDED OVER Heller lounge to the University to build a multicultural center. That doesn’t seem like it was in the best interests of the people.

    If we’re a school of protest, why doesn’t anyone protest the ASUC and its corruption? My band teacher in High School who’s like 50 or 60 something referred to it as “ASUCK”

    Either that or I want one of the leaders to come online (I know they’re all reading this) and defend the ASUC and tell us why it is important. Even if the referendum doesn’t work, I want it on the ballot just so I can see all thse stupid political parties being forced to justify the existence of the ASUC.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 7:07 pm

  15. no one can defend da peice of shiT ASUC with a strait face. tey all know its bs, none of tem wanna get smashT on da forums by trying to spew out some propaganda bs in defense of tere corrupt organization.

    i challnege one of da leaders of da ASUC to come here and say somting in its defense. just 1 of u try and defend dis corrupt third world imitatin pos government. wat none of u got da balls to do it? im here waitin for ur defense. waitin to smashT da sucka who tries to defend tis clown show called da ASUC.

    were is da bookswap money?
    were is da BAMN payoff?
    were is da No on 54 money?
    were is dat homeless convention money?
    were is dat UCSA money?

    daT is 200k right tere in wasted money over da last couple of years. da list is even longer if u look at the budget closer. what a fukin jokeT dis is. fucking enron was run better dan dis clown government. i’d rater have kenneth lay run dah ASUC tan da current clowns smashT.

    “kenneth lay for ASUC president > smashT current clowns”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 7:21 pm

  16. lets put dis shiT on da balloT nexT year. i waitin to smashT tese suckas on da balloT. jusT watch.

    “ASUC gonna get smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 7:23 pm

  17. http://www.livejournal.com/community/ucberkeley/

    its on now. get rdy for dis shiT to take of.

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 8:20 pm

  18. I disagree, smashT. The ASUC does serve a few good functions. During campaigning, the left wing groups are smothered by ASUC campaigners. Also, they provide entertainment when you realize none of them get sleep for two weeks and you can start messing with their minds when they’re campaigning.

    In all seriousness, Abolish the ASUC!

    Comment by DTI — August 26, 2005 @ 8:34 pm

  19. “In all seriousness, Abolish the ASUC!”

    spread da word we gonna make dis shiT happen.

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 8:41 pm

  20. If you’d like any help, I’d be glad to, except I’m not living in California right now. However, I know everyone in the ASUC and probably all their friends and have worked for various political parties for 3 years at Cal. I could give some advice; I think a referendum on the ballot needs 1000 signatures.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 9:03 pm

  21. Even if you cut the 55 dollars in mandatory student activity fees the ASUC will have some money (theoretically) coming in from the store and what not. That means the senate will get to play around like they always have, just with a smaller amount. The problems don’t really go away.

    If you want to really reform the ASUC, you have to do it structurally and break the backs of the special interests and the parties they back. Take the power to distribute money away from the Senate and give it over to some committee that isn’t directly responsible to the 27% that votes in April. Let them do it independently and you’ll see dramatic changes in who gets what.

    Also, the ASUC Constitution guarantees the freedom of association, but doesn’t say anywhere that the student government has to acknowledge it officially on things like the ballot. You can significantly diminish the power of the parties by taking any sort of party recognition off the ballot. Candidates won’t derive as much benefit from running in a party and won’t have the same kind of party loyalty you see now. If you’re lucky and structure the suit right, you could sue the election council and the senate to get party recognition pulled from the ballot. If that doesn’t work, you could always get an amendment passed that bans party recognition. Everyone will vote for it if they think it’ll cut down on those flyers.

    Comment by Mike Davis — August 26, 2005 @ 9:33 pm

  22. I honestly think that some of the people running and who make it onto the ASUC are genuine people. A lot of them, once elected, oppose the parties in principal. However, it’s “party leaders” like Bret Manley who institutionalize the party system and force the senators to become a part of it and make them vote in blocks.

    Comment by DTI — August 26, 2005 @ 9:48 pm

  23. There’s nothing more I’d like to do than sink CalSERVE and Student Action to what happened to Bears UNITED last year.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 26, 2005 @ 9:57 pm

  24. ***haha, teh ASUC Senate needs to bring back teh wasps. tey gave da oter ppl’s a chance to run it and its a fukin mess now. big waste of time, money, and resources. it resembles a third world government more tan anyting else.***

    Am I really the only person who noticed that smashT just said that we need more WHITE people in the Senate? So let me get this straight– it’s a mess, a waste of time money and resources… because there aren’t enough WHITE people? It resembles a third world government because not everyone looks the same?

    If you’re saying what it sounds like you’re saying, you need to get the hell out of our city. Your intolerance is not welcome here.

    And don’t bother with some cute comeback, because they’re not clever anyway.

    The disgusting racism of an anonymous loser who doesn’t have the balls to identify himself smashT.

    Comment by Jason O. — August 26, 2005 @ 10:01 pm

  25. “If you’re saying what it sounds like you’re saying, you need to get the hell out of our city. Your intolerance is not welcome here.”

    Ha. Haha. Oh, man. That’s great. We need to set up a wall just for that quote.

    Comment by Beetle — August 26, 2005 @ 10:49 pm

  26. ““If you’re saying what it sounds like you’re saying, you need to get the hell out of our city. Your intolerance is not welcome here.””

    lets buy dis fanboi a brown shirT. lol smashT s0n.

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 10:57 pm

  27. its sad dis kid can’t take a joke. i’m a minority myself. da real racists are punkT kids like u who tink minoroties need special help cuz they aint good enuff. ur brown shirT is in da mail, wear it around town with pride.

    “smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 26, 2005 @ 11:09 pm

  28. You know what’s also messed up? Student Action always says “we’re the party that represents all the students.” Well that’s great, Student Action. Conservatives/moderate conservatives make up about 15-20% of the campus and you people have NONE. The only Republican in your party was Billy Wang (albeit a liberal one), and you guys NEVER run any serious conservatives.

    You purposely run one or two conservatives that you KNOW won’t win and you don’t give a damn because you know conservatives will vote for you over CalSERVE candidates, even though last year Justine was about as conservative as Manny. You guys act like the Democratic party, who take in black votes for granted and do nothing to help conservatives on campus. Without the conservative vote, you people would have LOST the executive races and LOST your senate races. Keep that in mind.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 27, 2005 @ 10:39 am

  29. “If you’re saying what it sounds like you’re saying, you need to get the hell out of our city. Your intolerance is not welcome here.”

    Jason O., be careful. Intolerance of “intolerance” isn’t the right way to go. Two wrongs don’t make a right, you can’t fight fire with fire.

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 27, 2005 @ 11:55 am

  30. lol dis clown jason o. is juss another ASUC nuThugger. he twying to change da topic by throwing da word racism awound. he knows he can’t defend da ASUC so he gots to try an change da topic. fukin lame ass shiT.

    hey jason u change da world yet s0n? how did ur lobbying go? lolT dun wanna talk about daT? h4h4T

    “ASUC nuThugger smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 27, 2005 @ 10:29 pm

  31. Hate to break it to you smashT, but Jason O. is an elected official in Berkeley

    Comment by RepBast1984 — August 27, 2005 @ 11:01 pm

  32. h4h4T. i know who he is. he is daT d00d who ran unopposed for office. shiT even my dog would get elected if he ran unopposed smashT.

    daT’s how politics are in berkeley. one party state. look at dis fool’s comments ““If you’re saying what it sounds like you’re saying, you need to get the hell out of our city. Your intolerance is not welcome here.”” dis is straight up facist tendancies dawg.

    i bet if dis fool had supreme power he would throw me in some kind of camp to be “re-educated”. luckily dis fool is just a slave serving another master, daT fool Tom Bates who tries to throw away college newspapers cuz they endorsed his opponent. lol smashT (any of u seeing a tendancy here?)

    so basically we goT’s ppl’s running unopposed for office and den dey telling ppl who don’t agree wit tem to leave town cuz dey not welcome.

    damn looks like when da facists got pwnt in WWII dey found a new movement to usurp and take over. left wing progressivism/authoritarianism same shiT.

    “facist wannabe smashT”

    Comment by smashT — August 28, 2005 @ 8:08 am

  33. “It resembles a third world government because not everyone looks the same?”

    Nah, it just resembles a third world government because it can’t make out the difference between its own head and ass.

    Although I wouldn’t mind seeing some more people on the Senate who actually are white, Anglo-Saxon, AND Protestant.

    Comment by Anonymous — August 28, 2005 @ 8:03 pm

  34. I wouldn’t mind seeing SOMEONE who fit those characteristics.

    Comment by DTI — August 28, 2005 @ 8:45 pm

  35. WASPs are an underrepresented minority on campus

    Comment by Anonymous — August 28, 2005 @ 9:20 pm

  36. Actually if you go back and read the newspaper, we weren’t unopposed. But you can throw uninformed comments around if you’d like.

    And I’m not saying he isn’t allowed to be intolerant. I’m very well aware of his first amendment rights to be intolerant. I’m merely saying that we won’t stand for it. I hope I’m not alone in that sentiment.

    Comment by Jason O. — August 29, 2005 @ 12:21 am

  37. Jason, to “not stand for it” means you’re going to take active measures to get rid of him, not that you’ll just disapprove.

    You were ‘opposed’ by someone who had dropped out of the race. In any case, the issue of who would be on the rent board was resolved before you even started your campaign. It was just a matter of finding four interested folks. They found five. One quit. Normal folks shorthand it by writing “unopposed.” I don’t see why it’s such an issue for you, though.

    Comment by Beetle — August 29, 2005 @ 7:55 am

  38. WASPs are underrepresented? I’d love to see stats on the % of California that is WASP v. the % of WASPs that are admitted.

    Comment by anon — August 29, 2005 @ 8:56 am

  39. “You were ‘opposed’ by someone who had dropped out of the race. In any case, the issue of who would be on the rent board was resolved before you even started your campaign. It was just a matter of finding four interested folks. They found five. One quit. Normal folks shorthand it by writing “unopposed.” I don’t see why it’s such an issue for you, though.”

    smashT kid. u ran unopposed daT oter dude dropped out. sad ting is dat u are still on da ASUC’s nuts. get rdy to be crushT s0n.

    Comment by smashT — August 29, 2005 @ 11:52 am

  40. The only groups that are overrepresented at Cal are ALL Asian groups except general Pacific Islander. This is because most Pacific Islanders call themselves Tongans, or Guamanians, or Samoans, etc. All three of those groups are overrepresented.

    Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, yes they are underrepresented.

    Comment by DTI — August 29, 2005 @ 12:17 pm

  41. Is it just me or does anyone else find that Asians succeeding more than white people to be the epitome of the values of minority success? Oh wait, let’s bring back affirmative action and undercut their successes. White power!

    Comment by DTI — August 29, 2005 @ 12:26 pm

  42. I really can’t believe some of the people who post on here sometimes… it’s astounding.

    Comment by Jason O. — August 29, 2005 @ 2:43 pm

  43. Of course, the fact that white != WASP undercuts DTI’s whole argument.

    Comment by anon — August 29, 2005 @ 8:48 pm

  44. Anon, you misunderstood me. White people want affirmative action so that there will be more whites and less yellow people.

    Comment by DTI — August 30, 2005 @ 4:47 pm

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