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	<title>Comments on: IncidentLog Crime Reporting for Berkeley</title>
	<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/</link>
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		<title>by: David Horowitz</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1033</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:49:06 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;        2005-07-19 2242 PDT LOUD FRAT BOYS CHANNING WAY AND COLLEGE
        BERKELEY        CA
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        BERKELEY
        WOO!
        WOO!
        WOOOOOOOOO!
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        BERKELEY        CA<br />
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        WOO!<br />
        WOO!<br />
        WOOOOOOOOO!<br />
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		<title>by: jonp</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1021</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:43:33 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1021</guid>
					<description>By the way, it's generally common knowledge among criminologists (and their sociological colleagues like myself) that crime peaked in the 1980s and then dropped precipitiously in the 1990s.  To a limited extent, the beginning of the 21st century has continued the 90s crime drop, although we may be experiencing signs of an uptick.  At this moment, criminologists are in the middle of a major debate over what caused the 1990s crime drop, because there really isn't a consensus on the issue.  Giuliani would like to say it's the &quot;broken windows&quot; method of policing, but the crime drop occurred in cities where this policing method was not used.  Other explanations given include (1) a decline in black teen unemployment during the Clinton Administration; (2) the adoption of three-strikes laws; (3) the burnout of the crack cocaine trade; and (4) Levitt's argument that it's due to legalized abortion.  Personally, I think 2 &amp;amp; 3 had the most effect.  There's also the theory of the &quot;younger brother&quot; effect.  Basically, the crime epidemic of the 80s burned itself out, because the little brothers of crack addicts and gangbangers saw too many people getting killed, jailed, or injured.  Based on their childhood experiences, they decided crime and drugs don't pay.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>By the way, it&#8217;s generally common knowledge among criminologists (and their sociological colleagues like myself) that crime peaked in the 1980s and then dropped precipitiously in the 1990s.  To a limited extent, the beginning of the 21st century has continued the 90s crime drop, although we may be experiencing signs of an uptick.  At this moment, criminologists are in the middle of a major debate over what caused the 1990s crime drop, because there really isn&#8217;t a consensus on the issue.  Giuliani would like to say it&#8217;s the &#8220;broken windows&#8221; method of policing, but the crime drop occurred in cities where this policing method was not used.  Other explanations given include (1) a decline in black teen unemployment during the Clinton Administration; (2) the adoption of three-strikes laws; (3) the burnout of the crack cocaine trade; and (4) Levitt&#8217;s argument that it&#8217;s due to legalized abortion.  Personally, I think 2 &amp; 3 had the most effect.  There&#8217;s also the theory of the &#8220;younger brother&#8221; effect.  Basically, the crime epidemic of the 80s burned itself out, because the little brothers of crack addicts and gangbangers saw too many people getting killed, jailed, or injured.  Based on their childhood experiences, they decided crime and drugs don&#8217;t pay.
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		<title>by: jonp</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1019</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:34:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1019</guid>
					<description>Even a police state can't manage a zero crime level.  I have no idea what crime level people view as &quot;acceptable.&quot;   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Even a police state can&#8217;t manage a zero crime level.  I have no idea what crime level people view as &#8220;acceptable.&#8221;
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		<title>by: anon</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1017</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:26:36 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1017</guid>
					<description>in santa cruz, all last week some dysfunctional person was sneaking to a different street and popping tires of 7-20 cars. It would suck if that happened to me, but it is interesting to read about because that's so risky, because he'll eventually get caught and have hundreds of people angry at him. the city has driven the homeless out into the bushes though. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>in santa cruz, all last week some dysfunctional person was sneaking to a different street and popping tires of 7-20 cars. It would suck if that happened to me, but it is interesting to read about because that&#8217;s so risky, because he&#8217;ll eventually get caught and have hundreds of people angry at him. the city has driven the homeless out into the bushes though.
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		<title>by: anon</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1016</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:22:18 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1016</guid>
					<description>I got a car and my insurance company sent me a big refund when I moved the location out of Berkeley. 
 My friend who grew up at Channing and San Pablo said that it was pretty bad in the late 80s. The neighbors walked around with rifles and slit the throat of their pet cat because their mother was a church lady and was banding together with other church people to drive people doing vice crimes in the parking lot of lo-cost liquors away. Now, most of the poor people who weren't owners have been driven out of the city into West Sacramento and so forth, but I have never been scared of going around Berkeley and Oakland. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I got a car and my insurance company sent me a big refund when I moved the location out of Berkeley.<br />
 My friend who grew up at Channing and San Pablo said that it was pretty bad in the late 80s. The neighbors walked around with rifles and slit the throat of their pet cat because their mother was a church lady and was banding together with other church people to drive people doing vice crimes in the parking lot of lo-cost liquors away. Now, most of the poor people who weren&#8217;t owners have been driven out of the city into West Sacramento and so forth, but I have never been scared of going around Berkeley and Oakland.
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		<title>by: The Bay Area Is Talking</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1013</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:32:46 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1013</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;If it Bleeds, It Leads&lt;/strong&gt;

We hear this criticism all the time in TV News... all you do is tell us the BAD stuff. Crime Crime Crime. Well, what would you rather hear? &quot;235 planes took off and landed safely at the airport today.&quot; That's...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><strong>If it Bleeds, It Leads</strong></p>
	<p>We hear this criticism all the time in TV News&#8230; all you do is tell us the BAD stuff. Crime Crime Crime. Well, what would you rather hear? &#8220;235 planes took off and landed safely at the airport today.&#8221; That&#8217;s&#8230;
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		<title>by: mano</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1012</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:32:27 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1012</guid>
					<description>scared of &quot;Shattuck at 2 AM&quot;?  hahaha!  fucking wieners!  

most of you havent even seen a real recession, but you'll get your chance soon enough.  you little creampuffs are going to be in for a big surprise when you finally come face to face with an actual &quot;crime-wave&quot;.  

Shattuck at 2 AM!  HAHAHAAH!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>scared of &#8220;Shattuck at 2 AM&#8221;?  hahaha!  fucking wieners!  </p>
	<p>most of you havent even seen a real recession, but you&#8217;ll get your chance soon enough.  you little creampuffs are going to be in for a big surprise when you finally come face to face with an actual &#8220;crime-wave&#8221;.  </p>
	<p>Shattuck at 2 AM!  HAHAHAAH!
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		<title>by: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1011</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:08:43 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1011</guid>
					<description>Berkely's pacifist residents may well tout reports and statistics of low crime as justification for less police or less oppressive police force, etc. and may cite it as evidence of something having to do with prison self-help programs of some other ultra-liberal waste of time venture but what it really means is that the BPD is doing a fine job. 

Any Berkely resident with a true and real sense of the world realizes that a professional police department is unquestionably necessary. And some pacifists might wise up and realize the police department in a way makes it possible for them to sit around pondering utopian bullshit.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://accstudios.com/f/accproduct.htm&quot; title=&quot;LIBERALITY FOR ALL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Berkely&#8217;s pacifist residents may well tout reports and statistics of low crime as justification for less police or less oppressive police force, etc. and may cite it as evidence of something having to do with prison self-help programs of some other ultra-liberal waste of time venture but what it really means is that the BPD is doing a fine job. </p>
	<p>Any Berkely resident with a true and real sense of the world realizes that a professional police department is unquestionably necessary. And some pacifists might wise up and realize the police department in a way makes it possible for them to sit around pondering utopian bullshit.</p>
	<p><a href="http://accstudios.com/f/accproduct.htm" title="LIBERALITY FOR ALL" rel="nofollow"><br />
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		<title>by: af</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1010</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 13:04:38 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1010</guid>
					<description>it should be noted that the interface is still rather broken -- compare his map with the actual police reports at http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/police/crimestats/policebulletins.html , and you'll notice that he gets the location right only when the bulletin shows the location as an address (a la &quot;2367 TELEGRAPH AV.&quot;). but most entries in the police bulletin give just the street in the first location line and list the cross-street on the next line. in the latter case, his script ignores the cross street and just feeds the street name to google maps, causing it to use its idea of where &quot;the street itself&quot; is located, which is usually at one of its two extremeties.

this is, for instance, why you see (at least right now) a bit of a ring of incidents surrounding the west berkeley &quot;flats&quot; -- that's just where most west berkeley streets terminate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>it should be noted that the interface is still rather broken &#8212; compare his map with the actual police reports at <a href='http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/police/crimestats/policebulletins.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/police/crimestats/policebulletins.html</a> , and you&#8217;ll notice that he gets the location right only when the bulletin shows the location as an address (a la &#8220;2367 TELEGRAPH AV.&#8221;). but most entries in the police bulletin give just the street in the first location line and list the cross-street on the next line. in the latter case, his script ignores the cross street and just feeds the street name to google maps, causing it to use its idea of where &#8220;the street itself&#8221; is located, which is usually at one of its two extremeties.</p>
	<p>this is, for instance, why you see (at least right now) a bit of a ring of incidents surrounding the west berkeley &#8220;flats&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s just where most west berkeley streets terminate.
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		<title>by: Linker</title>
		<link>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1009</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 12:54:59 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/102/#comment-1009</guid>
					<description>Regional Approach to Ending Homelessness: 
http://www.abag.ca.gov/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1122490023,51141,

Berkeley's Health Task Force report: 
http://www.cityofberkeley.info/mayor/HealthTaskForce/Healthtaskforce.htm

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Regional Approach to Ending Homelessness:<br />
<a href='http://www.abag.ca.gov/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1122490023,51141' rel='nofollow'>http://www.abag.ca.gov/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1122490023,51141</a>,</p>
	<p>Berkeley&#8217;s Health Task Force report:<br />
<a href='http://www.cityofberkeley.info/mayor/HealthTaskForce/Healthtaskforce.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.cityofberkeley.info/mayor/HealthTaskForce/Healthtaskforce.htm</a>
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