Comments on: Beetle Beats Us To The Punch - Alcohol Education A Farce http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/ News and Observations about the University of California, Berkeley. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:36:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Beetle http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-591 Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:01:59 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-591 Also, some get to know their residents and just don't want to write them up. Also, some get to know their residents and just don’t want to write them up.

]]> by: Anon http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-588 Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:18:12 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-588 Lauren, ALL RA's start strict in the fall and end up being lax by the end of the year in the spring. That seems to be a first year RA's experience. They realize the system doesn't punish people when they write peopel up and just makes them hated by their residents. So they start to lax right away and by the end of Christmas break they return as an RA they're not strict at all. -Anon Lauren,
ALL RA’s start strict in the fall and end up being lax by the end of the year in the spring. That seems to be a first year RA’s experience. They realize the system doesn’t punish people when they write peopel up and just makes them hated by their residents. So they start to lax right away and by the end of Christmas break they return as an RA they’re not strict at all.
-Anon

]]> by: Lauren Karasek http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-559 Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:29:46 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-559 god- yeah, I wasn't trying to say that they were good or accurate numbers...the OSL and I have quite the history of disagreeing on data...just wanted to give an FYI on where they're coming from. god-
yeah, I wasn’t trying to say that they were good or accurate numbers…the OSL and I have quite the history of disagreeing on data…just wanted to give an FYI on where they’re coming from.

]]> by: god http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-557 Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:46:45 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-557 those statistics are biased and don't account for the fact that these kids were probably just more careful from then on. the consequences for a repeat offense scare students into drinking in more private arenas that the university cannot police--it doesn't stop them from drinking irresponsibly or underage. i doubt the program has much to do with the low rate of repeat offenders. those statistics are biased and don’t account for the fact that these kids were probably just more careful from then on. the consequences for a repeat offense scare students into drinking in more private arenas that the university cannot police–it doesn’t stop them from drinking irresponsibly or underage. i doubt the program has much to do with the low rate of repeat offenders.

]]> by: Lauren Karasek http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-555 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:08:46 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-555 The program has been a topic of conversation around the Office of Student Life and they're pretty proud of it. Apparently they initially used the program as a punishment for alcohol-related offenses in the dorms and report the following: "Of the 164 cases reported for Spring 2004, Only 9 students who took AlcoholEDU had repeat alcohol related violations. Out of the 422 reported alcohol violations in Fall 2004, only 23 of the students who took AlcoholEDU had repeat alcohol related violations." Apparently RAs were stricted in the Fall. "This gives a recidivism rate for students who took AlcoholEDU of 5% where the average recidivism rate for all students with alcohol violations for the past two semesters is 9.5%" Just fun facts to know and share. The Res Hall people also admit to spending a hefty sum onthe program, but believe it to be worth it. <em>(Comment edited by admin by request of commenter)</em> The program has been a topic of conversation around the Office of Student Life and they’re pretty proud of it. Apparently they initially used the program as a punishment for alcohol-related offenses in the dorms and report the following: “Of the 164 cases reported for Spring 2004, Only 9 students who took AlcoholEDU had repeat alcohol related violations. Out of the 422 reported alcohol violations in Fall 2004, only 23 of the students who took AlcoholEDU had repeat alcohol related violations.” Apparently RAs were stricted in the Fall. “This gives a recidivism rate for students who took AlcoholEDU of 5% where the average recidivism rate for all students with alcohol violations for the past two semesters is 9.5%” Just fun facts to know and share. The Res Hall people also admit to spending a hefty sum onthe program, but believe it to be worth it.

(Comment edited by admin by request of commenter)

]]> by: Beetle http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-549 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:09:35 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-549 But they'll be fine if they take CrackEdu But they’ll be fine if they take CrackEdu

]]> by: patr http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-547 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:05:22 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-547 Republican Administration = More Access To Drugs... That's funny. I suppose the pothead vote will start to trend toward the GOP. On a more serious note, I think our society needs to move beyond the statistics when it comes to drug use. Can government programs help stop drug use and abuse? Maybe, maybe not. Is our current War on Drugs a failure? Definitely. What's more harmful: someone smoking crack and minding his own business, or the crime and violence caused by the black market for drugs? If people want to abuse substances irresponsibly, that's great. They'll get what's coming to them for not doing a little safety research beforehand. Republican Administration = More Access To Drugs…
That’s funny. I suppose the pothead vote will start to trend toward the GOP.

On a more serious note, I think our society needs to move beyond the statistics when it comes to drug use. Can government programs help stop drug use and abuse? Maybe, maybe not. Is our current War on Drugs a failure? Definitely. What’s more harmful: someone smoking crack and minding his own business, or the crime and violence caused by the black market for drugs? If people want to abuse substances irresponsibly, that’s great. They’ll get what’s coming to them for not doing a little safety research beforehand.

]]> by: Anonymous http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-543 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:18:56 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-543 anon, I heard something breifly on the radio about how theres a lot of drugs right now available and it somehow related to Iraq. I realize this is really vague, but somehow during times of war and US invasions drugs become more accessable in the US. I obviously wasnt paying full attn but I think there is some correlation w/ republican admn; war; drug availability; and drug use. anon,

I heard something breifly on the radio about how theres a lot of drugs right now available and it somehow related to Iraq. I realize this is really vague, but somehow during times of war and US invasions drugs become more accessable in the US. I obviously wasnt paying full attn but I think there is some correlation w/ republican admn; war; drug availability; and drug use.

]]> by: Xian http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-541 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:53:49 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-541 It's not just incoming freshmen who have to take it. Transfer students do too. No matter their age. It’s not just incoming freshmen who have to take it. Transfer students do too. No matter their age.

]]> by: anon http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-537 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:29:19 +0100 http://calstuff.blogsome.com/2005/07/21/beetle-beats-us-to-the-punch-alcohol-education-a-farse/#comment-537 I thought a graph that I saw of marijuana use rates was pretty fascinating. It was a gov't survey with consistent method each year, and it showed a sharp rise during the 70s (which had republican administration) with a peak in 1982 when something like nearly 40% of young adults were smoking, but then it declined a lot to 1992 when it was much much lower, then it has gone up a bit since then. Meanwhile, 1989-1992 was considered a really bad drug crime wave in California for crack But what I want to know is what exactly caused this, and whether the government can actually influence usage in addition to and including incarceration, because if incarceration caused the decline in the 80s, then why did it rise during increasing incarceration in the late 90s. Is it the economy, cultural campaigns or Roe vs Wade in 1974. On one level you'd think culture would stay the same and there will always be the same percentage of various types of people. I thought a graph that I saw of marijuana use rates was pretty fascinating. It was a gov’t survey with consistent method each year, and it showed a sharp rise during the 70s (which had republican administration) with a peak in 1982 when something like nearly 40% of young adults were smoking, but then it declined a lot to 1992 when it was much much lower, then it has gone up a bit since then. Meanwhile, 1989-1992 was considered a really bad drug crime wave in California for crack But what I want to know is what exactly caused this, and whether the government can actually influence usage in addition to and including incarceration, because if incarceration caused the decline in the 80s, then why did it rise during increasing incarceration in the late 90s. Is it the economy, cultural campaigns or Roe vs Wade in 1974. On one level you’d think culture would stay the same and there will always be the same percentage of various types of people.

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